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Dec. 13th, 2003

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From:boannan
Date:December 14th, 2003 01:39 am (UTC)
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I'd be interested in seeing a candidate pursue the fact that corporations derive their legal existence from state charters, and that states could possibly use their powers to revoke charters for the corporations that are guilty of serious abuses.

I did a quick survey of Kucinich's website, and I don't think that this is what he means by "original intent," but I'm not sure.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:December 14th, 2003 09:48 am (UTC)
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Well Nader certainly had that platform. He specifically spoke about revoking charters in extreme cases many times. Given that Kucinich's philosophies are very much in line with Nader's, I wouldn't be surprised if that might be what he means.

Of course, this would be for extreme cases only.
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From:mathuaerknedam
Date:December 15th, 2003 03:28 pm (UTC)
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Ahhh... Okay.

Well, I'm disappointed that he wouldn't want to go so far as reducing corporate power to it's pre-"natural person" status, but the it doesn't seem anyone else wants to touch that either. I'd certainly be encouraged by his using the systems in place to reign them in, rather than adding more cruft to the system. (Cruft that would, invariably, get someone else's cruft added even while being watered down.)
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From:zarfmouse
Date:December 15th, 2003 10:32 pm (UTC)
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Well there's a couple issues.

1) I think instituting the "corporate death penalty" can help to effectively rail in the long reaching effects of natural person status. And I didn't say he DIDN'T want to undo natural person status, I certainly know many Greens do want to do that. I just don't know specifically what his specific stance is on this. I imagine he'd like to do that if he thought he could get away with it, but he is a pretty pragmatic guy.

2) Because natural person status was granted as a constitutional protection by invention of the Supreme Court, I don't think congress or the executive has the direct ability to revoke it. Either the Supreme Court has to revoke it or there has to be a constitutional amendment. Either of which is possible but hard.
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