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Jun. 29th, 2005

02:32 pm - Something big is happening in Chiapas.

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From:sterno
Date:June 29th, 2005 07:50 pm (UTC)

Seperation

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"He also suggested that upon liberation of the Zapatista people they would look forward to participating in World Cup soccer."

Sounds like they are planning to seperate entirely from Mexico.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 29th, 2005 07:54 pm (UTC)

Re: Seperation

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That's certainly the implication. :)

The question is how they plan on going about that.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 29th, 2005 07:57 pm (UTC)

Re: Seperation

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And "A new step forward in the indigenous struggle is only possible if the indigenous join together with workers, campesinos, students, teachers, employees -- the workers of the city and the countryside." doesn't exactly sound like separatist rhetoric...unless they're simply going to call for all their allies to support their secession via political and direct action pressure against Mexican retailiation.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 29th, 2005 08:17 pm (UTC)

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The soccer comment was "PS - You can see now that we aren't thinking about playing football. Or not thinking only about that. Because some day we will play against the Internazionale of Milan. We, or what is left of us."

This doesn't actually mention World Cup. I just assumed that the joke was that they wanted to be independent enough to be able to enjoy the fruits of peace and autonomy and play in the World Cup.

However it seems there is significant backstory to mentioning that particular team.
Inter - one of Italy's biggest and most famous clubs - have built links with the Zapatistas by funding sports, water and health projects in their area of operation in Chiapas.




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From:assclouds
Date:June 30th, 2005 12:44 am (UTC)

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"We have received the letter in which you inform us that your football team, the International F.C., has accepted the fraternal challenge we made to you."

See here.
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From:nomadwolf
Date:July 1st, 2005 03:32 pm (UTC)

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Well, that and Inter is a club team, so they wouldn't be able to meet them in the World Cup. There isn't really an international world-wide cup... at least nothing comparable to the WC.

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From:assclouds
Date:July 1st, 2005 05:59 pm (UTC)

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But there are regional-wide cups. Were Chiapas to develop it's own club teams, and club affiliations and championship processes and FIFA affiliation they could compete in the CONCACAF Champion's Cup. It's all intermingled.
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:July 11th, 2005 08:08 am (UTC)

Re: Seperation

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I was in Chiapas a few weeks ago. It's very visitable (cooler than some of Southern Mexico, because it's high up, and with pretty tourist things to do as well as the fascinating politics) - and a great place to learn Spanish at one of the language schools, too. The Zapatistas are very real, as has been the particularly great corruption in the state of Chiapas over the decades which led eventually to their uprising, and as is the Mexican state response - we saw army posts along the roads and heard many stories of repression, including the 'disappearance' [= kidnapping and murder] of the brother of our host in Chiapas four or five years ago for his pro-Zapatista organising). The queer-positive stuff would, it's my impression, probably fit well with the indigenous people's worldview. And the liberation theology Catholic/socialist working-class organisers are pretty special too.

As for sport - La Jornada (left-wing Mexican national daily) had a great open letter from Marcos to Inter Milan while we were there, including the paragraph that someone else has already quoted about lesbian/gay/transgender cheerleading, and including proposals that there should be some football (soccer) matches in the US to educate the good people of your country.

This might not happen: what does seem sure is that Inter Milan (some would say the world's greatest team) have clearly and enthusiastically agreed to play a team of Zapatistas as soon as this can be arranged. The Zaps continue to be both clever and witty in mobilising very effective international protection-through-publicity, while the recent statement that they had completed reorganization such that they could continue if all their publically-known leaders were killed or captured shows they continue to take the Mexican army's presence seriously.

They are definitely not looking for secession. They have repeatedly talked about a strong Mexico (not dependent on/doing the bidding of the US). I think it more likely they want to unite with workers, students, peasants, other indigenous groups to build a Mexican political response to the hopeful things going on around the southern half of your fine continent (in Venezuala, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Cuba ...) - I think their proposed consultation will be genuine (and a very effective way to win yet more hearts and minds to their side), and they will not yet know themselves exactly what will come out of it.

An ex-member of the Sandanista government in Mexico we met on our trip (it was a great trip) said she thought that there was hope for a new economic and political uniting of Latin America to stand up to the US's somewhat forceful agenda for the South - I would hope that the Zaps next initiative is building towards that.
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From:assclouds
Date:June 30th, 2005 12:42 am (UTC)

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Not necessarily. FIFA (Fédération Internationale de Football Association -- the international organizing association for soccer / football) is a bit lenient as regards nationality. For example, though "the United Kingdom" is one country there is no "UK" national football team. There is instead a Welsh national football team, a Scottish team, two seperate Irish teams, along with an English national team. What I'd imagine to be more likely would be the administrative / federal distinction between Chiapas and the rest of Mexico, which itself could lead to official FIFA affiliation.

Which, of course, makes me wonder if there are any Zapatistas playing for the Tricos...
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