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Jun. 16th, 2003

02:54 am - LJ LOVE

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So I've been toying with whether or not I wanted to do the "comment on 20 random people but don't say who they are" mind game. But I decided it was too twisted. If everyone on LJ did that thing I think it would increase the worldwide rate of brains popping from some kind of introspective feedback loop. But then folkyboy came up with a novel idea. Why not just TELL THE TRUTH .... like out in the open and stuff. It's a daunting task but without further ado here's my attempt at

lj love (♥)



acousticlixI can't wait until you start posting things. You're such a good friend. I wish we communicated more. I hope you find and hold on to some ongoing joy in life.
aletheisYour words really are beautiful whether they are full of wonder or melancholy. You've got some mad inner vision that I seriously dig. I hope you can find and hold on to a good night's sleep.
aretelaNow that you're moving back to NOLA there is even more reason than ever to keep us updated by posting here!
bdarYou're a cool guy, I hope we hang out a lot in the Duck-o-sphere in times to come. We'll play carcassone. I look forward to seeing your dramatic works on stages across the nation!
boldmovesWhy do cool folks like you have to live in Chicago? You're a person I'd like to hang out with all the time. We've not really spent that much time talking or bonding since we always just do social stuff together with groups but I feel like we have a comfortable connection. I want my life to be surrounded by friends with comfortable connection.
boloYour late night counsel has been quite helpful. It's nice to have a random guy in AZ who knows me but doesn't and who doesn't mind listening. Tales of your exploits will go down through the ages.
carleyHey there random person who shares a lot of interests with me. You write occasional straightforward snippets of life.
citruslikeI never know what to make of you. It's fun trying to figure that out. You're one zany chica. It's funny because you seem to assume everyone who reads your journal knows you and I sure don't.
cloeigrrlYou have nothing to fear. You keep a million irons in the fire and most of them seem to work out. Don't worry if a few don't here and there. I still tell myself from time to time that you and I should start a business venture together someday.
corvusI'm pretty sure you found me. I added you back recently. Haven't got a handle on ya yet. I don't think we've posted in each others journals at all. Nice shared interests though.
dbtYou rock and I miss you and the rest of the late 90's crowd. Too bad you never post.
deaconobviousThere's no time like the present to get your LJ addiction well underway.
desert_foxYou are a rocking dude and a great neighbor. I'll miss your fleating presense at band practice. I can't wait to see you playing with Kate's band! How'd that work out anyway?
duck2ducksYou're my closest friend of all time! There's nothing else to say (I could go on and on about brilliant writer, compassionate friend, etc etc but it'd get all sappy in here). I mean I've got like a million "best friends" but in the end you're it dude. I can't believe that we've actually been friends for like 12 years now!
dygelYou know what I miss, Eric? I miss listening to your cool music stuff. You should post new tracks to LJ.
earnbrandAll I know is that we gamed a few times together long ago in an older incarnation of the Duck-o-sphere. That was fun! You comment often so you're paying attention, that's always appreciated!
folkyboyYou are one zany dude. I'm jealous of you and hope_persists. It keeps surprising me that you're in Arkansas, you need to move to the East Coast. I'm flattered that you thought I was gay, the fact that you cared whether I was or not means maybe I'm worth noticing. :)
frankenmonkeyYou hang out in the Robb-o-Duck-o-sphere and I have no idea who you are. Weird.
goovieI ran across your profile of many shared interests and you are from Chicago. I hope maybe someday we can assimilate you because you seem pretty damned cool.
goytoyHurray for the community building force that is Adam Brodsky. What is more folk than that a random dude traveling around playing for groups of 10 people at a time could cause us to meet? I'm so glad we interact to extensively in our respective LJs (and in others). Someday I'll probably end up at one of your house concerts. :)
hwy61Joe! I can't believe you got deported from Canda, that totally sucks! We should actually hang out sometime if you ever come back to Chambana. Game or something.
spillshercoffeeSpontaneous neurotic techie artist chicks are cool.
in_the_end_hopeYou appeared on the scene seemingly out of nowhere bearing an aura of great coolness. I'm glad the world continues to produce your kind in this town!
kateoramaI think we've hung out like less than a dozen times since we met several years ago but you're another person I feel a very comfortable connection with. You're one of those laid back with it folks who is just on a good wavelength. Get your ass back to town so we can bike more. (Maybe anyone who shares long bike rides is bound to feel connected. :)
khudiramboseI don't think I get you yet. I'm still watching. Interesting.
kim_spiracyWho the heck are you and why am I your friend?
kingverminMan you are fucking brilliant! Everything I've ever seen you write has done something funny to my head. I'd say I want more but maybe you can't force that kind of genius so I'll take every nugget I can get.
leukorodonI have to keep reminding myself that you are no longer the 4 year old I met all those years ago. It's awesome to lurkingly keep tabs on the life of a modern day Wauconda high schooler, I hope you don't mind my lurking.
lost_not_forgotYou are mutant smart, holy crap! You have great taste in music, you've got your shit together at WAY to early an age, you're so frickin nice. Clearly you are a space alien.
marezcharzI love talking to you! I think you're like my first regular net.buddy, someone that I met online and actually have a regular conversation with. Thanks to bolo for the serendipitous connection!
meekayYou have so many more layers and facets than I ever would have imagined that quiet guy sitting next to me in CS classes had. I dig it.
more_lightWho are you and why am I your friend?
owl_tnAt first when you friended me I thought you were my friend Alex from here but it didn't make any sense because you were in TN. Really weird. Anyway you have good taste in porn obviously.
peppergrayYou should really have a newspaper column. Your commentary on anything you choose to comment on is always choicely written.
photogrphygrlYou're wild and crazy on a rollercoaster ride of life! I envy your ability to hold on (even if you slip from time to time). I hope you stop and take a breather for yourself from time to time. Maybe we'll talk about booking shows sometime (not that I know what there is to talk about).
hope_persistsYay for east coast folkies! I want to live vicariously through you.
queerfrostyI just randomly ran into your journal through chambana and you have turned out to be a really cool person. I'm glad I added you! I'm so glad that Portland is working out for you so far.
rainboxI feel like I came in in the middle of a story so I don't get it all yet but I'm enjoying figuring it out. I hope you end up in a comfortable place.
rolandkaleMy oldest current friend! I think you become more Buckowskian by the day and since I know you pride yourself on that I totally dig it. You're probably one of the most honestly introspective folks I know. You've definitely got a Zen about you. Don't drink too much and die! ;)
sirreal13Another random dude with a lot of shared interests that I haven't quite figured out yet. Still watching.
sogmasterAnother random dude with a lot of shared interests but you never really post much.
soulsongI can't get over how much we have in common. You are like the trans-atlantic me, or else the anti-me (like in a folk/anti-folk way, not a christ/anti-christ or matter/anti-matter way) or something. I really want to talk more LeGuin and community and all kinds of other deep stuff with you at great length, if only I had the time to talk to ANYONE deeply or at great length these days. I hope my enthusiasm for your thoughts isn't too weird!
studentothewindFor me, you're a key element to the Duck-o-sphere ecology. Fun times are always had by all when you're around, you're like a barrel of fun. We should put fish in you to make shooting them easy. Man, I'm totally not implying that you're barrel shaped though, that'd be weird.
stuffedsheep29I think I might have met you back in the Forbes days but I only barely remember. So I watch your journal thinking my memory will be jogged.
superlemming13Your like the perfect human being. I'm so elated at the quality of friendship that you have with aletheis. A person couldn't ask for a better friend.
swank76Don't diss on your "vacation". Embrace it for a while. I need one of those.
szaszIt's so weird that we really don't know each other. I mean we've met a few times but that's it. But I mean you get mega cool points for being married to Kate and other orthogonal cool points for being a networking god. I want your job, badly.
usurpthefutureYay for anarchists. Too bad you never post.
veilchemyLots of shared interests, I'm intrigued and watching.
vivaldiaLooks like you don't post so much but are just starting to again. Once again lots of shared interests. Intrigued. Glad you're doing (relatively speaking) ok.
wendywoowhoI have to admit that I skip over any posts about dogs or one-dimensional quizes or Friday Fives. But in between all that you're a very interesting person and I expect we'll have plenty more (especially political stuff) to talk about in the future. I really appreciated your perspective on the Nader thing.
zarfmouseYou are such a god damned histrionic obsessive-compulsive narcisist. It's a good thing you've got LJ to let it all out in a socially acceptable forum!


I'm totally going to lose my job if I ever take this long writing an LJ entry in the middle of the night again.

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Current Music: Erin McKeown - Grand

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From:goovie
Date:June 16th, 2003 01:23 am (UTC)
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ok, i'm an idiot because for some reason, it didn't hit me until now that you're in illinois, too (maybe because i'm still getting used to thinking of illinois as "home"). how far away are you from chicago, anyway? close enough that it would make sense for me to start listing the uc concert info in my folk newsletter? and if so, would you like to do an interview sometime? ok, it's 3:30am, so i'll stop babbling now.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 07:46 am (UTC)
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The scale of things is hilarious. I just reread my post and realize that I was simultaneously posting excitment that you lived as close as Chicago and disappointment that boldmoves and other close friends live as far as Chicago.

Anyway I'm about 2.5 hours south of Chicago on I-57. I go up there at least once a month often more for shows. I was just up there for the Melissa Ferrick show at Uncommon Ground.

I have a Folk-fans list that I use to let people know about shows that I promote here in town. Let me know if you want to be on it. What newsletter do you publish? I'd love to do an interview if you think it makes sense. I know a few people from Chicago do frequently come to the shows that I book.

If you want to hear some great music that you really wouldn't hear elsewhere (because they don't tour) you should come down for Saturday's show with MJ Walker and Buster's Dream! It's so weird being the promoter for a show and being actually excited about the show because I feel like people will think I'm trying to sell them something. I really think you should come to this show. And not just because it's my Dad's band. :)

Woah, it's 9:45am, I should go to work!
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From:goovie
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:42 am (UTC)

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i'd love to be on the folk-fans list. the newsletter i publish is only two months old; it's called song circle and it's available for free at the old town school and uncommon ground (where i used to work, btw). i would definitely come for saturday's show if i didn't already have plans. your dad's band sounds like a lot of fun.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:49 am (UTC)
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I've added you. Next time I'm in town I'll look for your newsletter.
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From:folkyboy
Date:June 16th, 2003 05:45 am (UTC)
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you are not supposed to take my games and then make them BETTER! arg on you!

:D i do need to move to Boston! and i need to learn guitar and become a street musician!
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:26 am (UTC)
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Being a street musician would rock (I mean until the starvation and the getting mugged set in)! I keep trying to convince my dad that he should get a permit for playing in Chicago on the street.

I miss Boston.
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From:wendywoowho
Date:June 16th, 2003 06:38 am (UTC)

The Joy of Subject Lines And User Icons

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I have to admit that I skip over any posts about dogs or one-dimensional quizes or Friday Fives.

Hee. That's perfectly spiffy. After all, that's what semi-descriptive subject lines and user icons are for, to help the observer select material to read....or not.
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From:goytoy
Date:June 16th, 2003 07:22 am (UTC)

Meeting at a house party

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Zach - you're always welcome to come to one of our parties. I also think we're going to be in Philly for the final show of the 50/50 tour. We like to visit sometimes anyway - we know the city really well because of the time Neil lived there. And the Tin Angel/Serrano is our favorite club. AND our pal Mary Prankster opens for him that night. Any chance of you and some friends making another looooong drive?
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 07:52 am (UTC)

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That is a tempting idea! I'll think on it.

Like could have some drastic changes around that time. Drastic changes that could enable lots of road trips. We'll see.
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From:photogrphygrl
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:13 am (UTC)
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i guess my life must read as a rollercoaster ride... but, i feel pretty grounded. i've just been having WAY too much fun lately! breather is definitely necessary... my old body just can't take it! : )
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:23 am (UTC)
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Heh. Yah I've been on this crazy upswing myself for a couple of months. Warm weather brings out the fun having I think! So maybe I'm reading me into you a little...I know _I_ need to be very careful to not let this upswing become a fall. To take it easy when neccessary and to have a plan for enjoying it while it lasts and then slowing down before I burn out. :)
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From:desert_fox
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:31 am (UTC)
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LJ love right back at ya, you histrionic obsessive-compulsive narcisist! You've always been one of those guys I look up to in one way or another, from your involvement in the community through music, to your social awareness, to the unconscious selflessness you radiate for the good of the whole. Here's to many more years as neighbors!
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:35 am (UTC)
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Wow. That's the kinda dude I hope to be! I'm glad someone sees it happening. :)

I'm just secretly trying to give The Whole some radiation poisoning. It's a plot.

I'm so glad you're sticking around for the long haul. Urbana asimilation rocks.
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From:marezcharz
Date:June 21st, 2003 02:53 am (UTC)

Hope to be? HOPE to be????

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Silly rabbit, you truly kick ass in the human department. You rock harder than Motorhead's 'Ace of Spades'!!!

I feel incredibly lucky to have met you. Thanx to Mr. Freak Nasty JackT.

I admire your enthusiasm and passion which seems to flow from one interest to the next. I also admire your positive nature. I hope you never lose this - many people let it die before their 30. (of course an extensive listing will never fit here)

Look at your list again. Look at all the wonderful replies. How do you think you have so many wonderful friends? Now, don't you feel good?
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 21st, 2003 08:09 am (UTC)

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I FEEEEEL GOOD! I knew that I would now.
OW.

:)

Thanks.
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From:bolo
Date:June 16th, 2003 08:55 am (UTC)

Cheers from AZ...

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It's really nice that you've been able to chat with me about personal stuff though you and I only vaguely know each other through the Duck-O-Sphere. One of my fondest memories of us actually hanging out is when we first met at the Illini Union in the bowling alley. Watching you bowl is quite a spectacle that I'll never forget.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 10:42 am (UTC)

Re: Cheers from AZ...

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I assure you that I have not gotten any better.
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From:rolandkale
Date:June 16th, 2003 03:41 pm (UTC)

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well, you're not bowling overhand anymore, are you?

i seem to remember that i witnessed you at the Illini Union bowling once and you actually threw the ball from above your head causing a bunch of us to fear wild retribution.

ahh, memories alone are nothing compared to zach memories.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 03:51 pm (UTC)

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You are just making that shit up! Never happened. Don't listen to this man folks. There is nothing to see here.
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From:superlemming13
Date:June 16th, 2003 09:52 am (UTC)

Eeek!

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"You're like the perfect human being."
Um... That's a lot to live up to. I hope I don't mess up! *gulp*
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 16th, 2003 10:17 am (UTC)

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It's ok, I'm just being histrionic.
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From:bolo
Date:June 16th, 2003 10:19 am (UTC)

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No, Doug. He really means, "Don't fuck this perfection up." You must live up to the expectations of the Zarfmouse!
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From:rainbox
Date:June 16th, 2003 10:04 am (UTC)
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fun! i like this better than the 20 random people thing.
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From:dygel
Date:June 16th, 2003 05:32 pm (UTC)
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Hey, love right back at you man.
Unfortunately, I don't do much with music anymore. When I enrolled here, I underwent a sort of divergence of my interests, which is when I picked up electronic music. In the last year, I've been scaling back to the things I've enjoyed most and that I felt that I was best at. While I really enjoyed doing music, I didn't have the tools I wanted (not legally, anyhow), and I didn't have the time and patience for it, so it's mostly gone by the wayside...
I do occasionally pick up that MP3.com album I made though and pop it in the player. I'm still amazed that I liked the stuff I put together; that was the most satisfying part of it all, I think. But still, I'd rather put that energy into writing.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, though. :)
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From:earnbrand
Date:June 17th, 2003 05:35 pm (UTC)
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All I know is that we gamed a few times together long ago in an older incarnation of the Duck-o-sphere.

That and the "road-trip-from-hell-Phish-concert." We must change this when I come back to UIUC this fall.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 17th, 2003 08:55 pm (UTC)
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I've never been to a Phish concert in my life though I've been on MANY road trips from hell. I don't remember this particular experience.
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From:earnbrand
Date:June 18th, 2003 10:38 am (UTC)
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hmmm, you must not have gone on that leg of the trip, but I remember returning you to IMSA quite a bit after hours on Sunday night.
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From:mr_ducktape
Date:June 19th, 2003 09:11 pm (UTC)
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That concert was the same weekend as the Milwaukee Folk Fest in November '94. Zach would have been along for the Folk Fest, tho not the Phish show.

Good memory, boy!
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 19th, 2003 09:57 pm (UTC)
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Huh. I totally thought Fodor was driving on that trip. Damn my bad memory.
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From:mr_ducktape
Date:June 19th, 2003 09:58 pm (UTC)
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Fodor was along for the Phish concert, at least. I do recall that.
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From:kateorama
Date:June 18th, 2003 11:37 pm (UTC)

it's prob'ly not just the bike rides...

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...but they help! Thanks for the shout-out, and back atcha. I agree, there's a good connection in spite of having had little opportunity to build it. A good sign, I think. I will be back soon (July) and wanting to bike (did I mention I bought a brand new road bike? woohoo!).

Re: my wonderful partner/husband, Charley, he is mega cool all on his own merits. I will take the liberty of speaking for him, or at least describing my perception of some of his reactions: if the IMC's tech stuff becomes the predictable destination for conversations with a particular person or in certain contexts, Charley is less likely to feel valued for all the other cool things, besides his job/tech knowledge, that he is/does. For instance, playing the guitar, listening to lots of different kinds of music including folk (we both really like MJ Walker, Joni Laurence, Voices on the Verge) traveling, talking about ideas and movies and astronomy, etc. etc. Also, you, unfortunately, have the shadow of the too-eager/too-pushy Sascha hanging over you (nothing I haven't said directly to Sascha, so I don't mind saying it here) -- we are both wary of being dragged kicking and screaming into things that do not actually represent our own politics, ethics and goals. And we end up avoiding circumstances that seem to evoke/invite/support that behavior.

Okay, I guess this has gone beyond "comment" length, but so be it. See you soon.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 19th, 2003 08:04 am (UTC)

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heh, I'm the last person to value a person solely (or even primarily) for their tech skills....it just happens to be the only thing I know about Charley. I only knew him as the UIUC network god for my first few years in town after he gave a little mini lecture to some college freshmen course I took. But shit, there's so many people that the moment they see me say "hey can you fix my computer?" "hey can you build me a website?" "hey can you teach me linux?" etc and I'm so sick of computers. I don't want to work on them for a job anymore and I don't want to be "the computer guy". So I'm really sorry if I gave the impression that that's how I think of people...I really just don't know _anything_ about Charley outside of some very scant LJ stuff and a lecture he gave to one of my freshmen CS classes...my lack of knowledge is all I was trying to convey in my LJ Love.

There seems to be a whole can of worms with IMC and Sascha there that I know nothing about. I had no idea that any communication between IMC and Charley has ever existed. Years ago I remember some brief mention of "hey it'd be cool if the infamous Charley Kline was into helping us" to which I think I probably said "it'd be great and someone should talk to him but I'll betcha he's WAY too busy with UIUC stuff to want to do MORE computer stuff here for free". I hope you don't think I was sucking up to Charley to get him involved in IMC tech stuff?

I sometimes consider Sascha to be my activist mentor, the guy is a passionate genius. BUT I am well aware of his penchant for high-pressure recruiting and I don't work like that. My outreach is to talk honestly about what I love about the IMC when it is relevent and leave it to folks to ask me how to get involved or to tell me they are interested in learning more. My approach brings in less people than Sascha's but I think the people that it brings in are more likely to not get burned out and stay. And the last thing I ever talk about wrt to IMC is it's tech. Our tech is boring as hell and until he get some grant money in to change that there's nothing to talk about. To me talking about the IMC's tech is about as interesting as talking about it's garbage, it's a vital thing that needs to be taken care of but it isn't interesting. I am much more interested in community building. I promise not to drag either of you anywhere (though you've now invited me to say "hey you should come to this folk show" from time to time ;).

Long comments are cool.

Oh, and movie fests. We should have movie fests this summer.
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From:szasz
Date:June 19th, 2003 07:28 pm (UTC)

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BUT I am well aware of his penchant for high-pressure recruiting and I don't work like that.

Trust me, I'm cognizant of the difference. And no worries about "sucking up".

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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 19th, 2003 09:47 pm (UTC)

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Well good then. Thanks. :)

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From:szasz
Date:June 19th, 2003 07:31 pm (UTC)

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You just need one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/388b/
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From:zarfmouse
Date:June 19th, 2003 09:43 pm (UTC)

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Dude, that will go perfectly with my "Stop me before I volunteer again!" shirt. I'm getting it.
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