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Ohio Recount Update - The Life and Thoughts of Zach

Nov. 21st, 2004

09:40 pm - Ohio Recount Update

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For those of you wondering what is going on with the Ohio recount effort, here's an update. All of this information (with a lot more detail) is available from http://www.votecobb.org.

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From:assclouds
Date:November 22nd, 2004 08:46 am (UTC)
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I'm considering volunteering. Maybe if I can get a task to work on in Cincinnati I can crash with a friend there...
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From:the_sween
Date:November 22nd, 2004 05:06 pm (UTC)
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Rhetorical question: Why hasn't Kucinich moved to the Green party?
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 22nd, 2004 05:38 pm (UTC)
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In for a penny, in for a pound.

I think it's the same reason that Deb Feinen (Republican) is not a Democrat.

Kucinich has done well with the Dems, no reason for him to give up now. It'd hurt him politically to do so.

Besides, we need people playing both sides of the game. The way I see it the Greens are the vitally neccessary long term solution that the Dems can never be, but the progressive democrats are the short term solution that the Greens can't be yet. I'm happy to have them as allies.

We're starting something new. Kucinich is part of something old. I don't think we should ever hope to seduce cool elected officials away from the Dems but that's ok because we're a DIY party and we don't need the pros.
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From:skywind8
Date:November 22nd, 2004 05:49 pm (UTC)
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After all the frustration of election day this year, it's good to see investigations occuring and recount being set up and all that.

I think some of my friends thought I was crazy when I started posting notes on web boards about oddities in certain geographies. But it's gradually coming out and being checked into, and this is Good.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 22nd, 2004 06:32 pm (UTC)
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I'm amazed at just how little press this stuff is getting though. Bits and pieces are trickling out but there's no intense focus. I get lots of people telling me that it's dumb to ask for a recount because we'll just get another Florida. It's sad that so many people are so exhausted with an electoral system that never seems to work right and that doesn't provide any real tangible choices that they're willing to have their election stolen just so they don't have to fret as much as they did in 2000. Luckily, there's a ton of OTHER people who do not feel this way.

I wish I could drop everything and run to Ohio to help out there. Sadly I've already got plane tickets to Washington DC for talking with FCC folks about wireless.
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From:skywind8
Date:November 22nd, 2004 07:44 pm (UTC)
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The lack of press, the tired people, have all bothered me too. In many ways I wish this occurred at a different time of year (Sept maybe?) so that people would still have enough energy to respond. November is such a tired month for people. We need people to care, to be active, even just to yell and complain and make a fuss.

I've been wondering why the mainstream press has been so shy about the recount stuff. Were they really bitten that hard last time around?
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 22nd, 2004 08:33 pm (UTC)
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http://www.livejournal.com/users/zarfmouse/90154.html
rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/c04/c04072504_media.rm

This is a pretty interesting interview with anchors from all the major television news organizations. In it they suggest that there is a huge amount of (they say) cultural pressure to not show any liberal bias, just as there was (they say) a huge amount of cultural pressure in the late 1960s to not show any conservative bias.

Now, of course, our culture is largely created by TV, so TV people saying that they are the victims of cultural pressure is kind of ironic.

Anyway, I think the political climate is so different now. Questioning Bush has so many negative consequences (being called unamerican, being boycotted, being investigated, being denied access to inside information, etc) that I think people just don't want to deal with it.

Besides, Kerry conceded, so it really is hard for "objective" journalists to make an industrialized commodified story about it because they are supposed to tell "both sides" of the story. Their recipe for "both sides" is to interview a Democrat and a Republican for "fair and balanced opinions". With no Democrats to interview they are lost in the wilderness and have no idea how to churn out that story because they would actually have to do leg work.
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From:the_sween
Date:November 22nd, 2004 07:56 pm (UTC)
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No kidding. The Ohio press is picking up on it, but it's not getting enough attention anywhere else. In fact, the source I hear about it from most frequently is Air America radio.

When will you be back fom DC?
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