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Nov. 11th, 2004

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So Kerry backed out as soon as he got a chance, but two other Presidential Candidates are standing up for Democracy and demanding a recount in Ohio. They need to raise $110,000 for the filing fee for a full statewide recount. Please send them what you can spare

For immediate release: November 11, 2004

Contact: Blair Bobier, Media Director at 541.929.5755 or 414.364.1596 Stephen Gordon, Badnarik campaign at 256.227.8360

GREEN & LIBERTARIAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TO DEMAND OHIO RECOUNT

David Cobb and Michael Badnarik, the 2004 presidential candidates for the Green and Libertarian parties, today announced their intentions to file a formal demand for a recount of the presidential ballots cast in Ohio.

"Due to widespread reports of irregularities in the Ohio voting process, we are compelled to demand a recount of the Ohio presidential vote. Voting is the heart of the democratic process in which we as a nation put our faith. When people stand in line for hours to exercise their right to vote, they need to know that all votes will be counted fairly and accurately. We must protect the rights of the people of Ohio, as well as all Americans, and stand up for the right to vote and the right for people's votes to be counted. The integrity of the democratic process is at stake," the two candidates said in a joint statement.

The candidates also demanded that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who chaired the Ohio Bush campaign, recuse himself from the recount process.

The Ohio presidential election was marred by numerous press and independent reports of voter intimidation, mis-marked and discarded ballots, problems with electronic voting machines and the targeted disenfranchisement of African American voters. A number of citizens' groups and voting rights organizations are holding hearings this Saturday in Columbus, Ohio to investigate voting irregularities and voter suppression in the Ohio 2004 general election. The hearings will be held from 1-4 p.m. at the New Faith Baptist Church, 955 Oak Street. Voters, poll workers, journalists and voting experts are invited to testify. A second hearing will be held on Monday at a location TBA, from 6-9 p.m.

The Cobb and Badnarik campaigns are in the process of raising the required fee, estimated at $110,000, for filing for a complete recount. The campaigns are accepting contributions through their websites. The Cobb-LaMarche website is http://www.votecobb.org. The Badnarik-Campagna contribution page is https://badnarik.org.

The Cobb and Badnarik campaigns have displayed a level of cooperation and civility rarely found in electoral politics. The campaigns jointly participated in and/or sponsored a series of independent debates. Cobb and Badnarik were also simultaneously arrested in St. Louis protesting their exclusion from the restricted, two-party corporate-sponsored debates.

To see an investigative report by Greg Palast, author of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, which asserts that the Ohio vote was improperly decided, see http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php.

For an article detailing a dozen ways in which the Ohio vote was potentially manipulated, see http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/810.

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From:juvenilia
Date:November 11th, 2004 07:11 pm (UTC)
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did you see the numbers that kaldari posted about the florida numbers?
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 11th, 2004 07:53 pm (UTC)
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Yes. Florida, New Mexico, Ohio...all fucked.
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From:juvenilia
Date:November 11th, 2004 07:56 pm (UTC)
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why did they pick ohio?
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 11th, 2004 09:32 pm (UTC)
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I think because Ohio has a lot more punchcards so it's more recountable. It's a more tractable problem and it'd be enough to change the results. $110,000 is hard enough to raise. The Florida problems are harder to resolve because there may not be a paper trail for a lot of the votes. There's nothing to recount, just stories to tell using statistics.

I hope someone else pushes for deeper official inquiry in Florida and New Mexico, too.
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From:juvenilia
Date:November 11th, 2004 09:46 pm (UTC)
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i wish there was some way it could make a difference now. but there's really nothing we can do about it, results wise. even if it comes out that kerry would have won, he already gave up.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 11th, 2004 10:10 pm (UTC)
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It doesn't matter, if there is a recount before Ohio certifies it's results (in December, I think) then Ohio will send Kerry's electors to the Electoral College and Kerry will be elected. I suppose he could turn down the job and then Edwards would be the President.

I suppose Kerry could ask his electors to vote for Bush anyway, but that would be moronic.
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From:juvenilia
Date:November 11th, 2004 10:16 pm (UTC)
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well, he's a moron. we'll see. i don't have any money to give at this point.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 11th, 2004 10:14 pm (UTC)
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Which is why it is desperately important for people to send money to Cobb or Badnarik so they can afford to file for the recount in time.
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From:conradina
Date:November 11th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC)

Fucked by how many sigma?

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Anyone know if someone is comparing the registration:vote ratios from those Fla counties to other clean-looking, verifiable places to see how unexpected it really is? How much voter "reconsideration" is actually expected?

I'm thinking here of the very powerful[*] studies of Jasjeet Sekhon -- see http://elections.fas.harvard.edu -- which showed how the Buchanon:Bush vote ratios for Palm Beach & Broward were SEVEN STANDARD DEVIATIONS away from the Fla mean.

[*]Well, powerful in academic circles, and totally without currency anywhere else.

Also... Hi Faith :)
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 11th, 2004 10:13 pm (UTC)

Re: Fucked by how many sigma?

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I would love to see that kind of analysis done.

I would also like to see the ratios based on registered voters who actually voted, rather than just on registered voters. I mean here in Illinois, at least, when you vote it goes into the database that you voted. That data probably isn't published yet in Florida but it'll be interesting to check when it does come out. Did a higher percentage of registered Republicans actually come out and vote than registered Democrats? Because that would skew things a bit and make the data a little less shocking. Or was it the other way around, making the data even more shocking?

It is really too bad that there is no real room for these kind of statistical arguments to have any weight in court when elections are challenged. It is too bad that the only response to a broken election is a recount...which doesn't take into account fraud and disenfranchisement. Ugh.

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From:volcgrrl
Date:November 11th, 2004 08:50 pm (UTC)
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Because it would be too blatant for it to be Florida again?
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 11th, 2004 09:40 pm (UTC)
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Well I think the tractable problems are in Ohio. A simple recount of the punchcard ballots could actually change the results. The problems in Florida are more complex because many of the (non-optical scan) electronic voting machines don't have any paper trail, there's no way to do a recount.

And this is just the efforts of two third party candidates who don't have much money. Hopefully some other folks will step forward to tackle Florida.
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From:zarfmouse
Date:November 11th, 2004 09:23 pm (UTC)
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Ohio mostly uses punchcards. Read the Greg Palast link, it explains a lot.

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